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story is demands is resigning in the senate. do you think -- jim demint is resigning in the senate. the think there are enough but not republicans to force president obama to cave? >> there are a number of republicans who have stepped up and said, we have to be serious about revenue. we believe in the middle class tax cuts. let's start where we agree. that is really important to have that conversation. what you are saying is that republicans and democrats set not been talking. on almost every big decision we have made in the last two years, democrats have had to step up and have 100 or more people to reach common ground. it is when we were together and when we are not heeding our heels in -- digging our heels in -- >> using there are enough republicans that will agree not to dig their heels in? >> we really would like him to really mean it. it would be helpful right now to provide the certainty to the economy. the pressure has to be on the republicans to not use the debt ceiling as a tool to give more spending cuts. we have to decide on the budget. what is the right amount of spend
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